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Q4 Outlook for Traders: The Fed is back in easing mode. Is this time different?

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John J. Hardy

Global Head of Macro Strategy

Summary:  The beginning of Fed easing cycles are often fraught with danger, but the policy environment is like no other in modern times, with very low popular sentiment about the state of things while the market screams ever higher. We try to sort through the cloudy outlook for Q4.


It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair. – Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities

Fed launches new easing amidst both the best and worst of times
Charles Dickens’ A Tale of Two Cities 
is a story that unfolds with the building drama of the French Revolution as its backdrop, contrasting London and Paris and the paradoxical contrasts of the intellectual ferment and great wealth among the few and great misery among many in this age. Likewise, the nominally prosperous, peak-British Empire Victorian age in which Dickens wrote was an age of contrasting wealth generation and progress and massive urban poverty. Fast-forward to our day and the always critical US economy and you would think we have the worst of times when we look at a near record low in the US University of Michigan Sentiment survey and US President Trump suffering the worst disapproval ratings of any US president in the first year of his presidency.

But look over at the stock market and you have the best of times for investors and (at least mega-cap and AI-adjacent) companies, as the aggregate stock market hit record highs in Q3 and, more importantly, record valuations. The record multiples are both relative to earnings, but perhaps even more remarkably relative to sales. Indeed, S&P 500 companies reached a stunning valuation in Q3 of more than 3.3 times sales. At the market peak in 2007, that price-to-sales ratio was just over 1.5.

At the global level, China’s markets are booming, as China encourages a domestically driven tech revolution to gain independence from and even rival the West, while European large-caps have put in a vastly superior return in USD terms than the US market, and emerging markets have likewise outperformed the US, at least in USD terms. The contrasts are stark, and the outlook is hazier than ever. Will global markets continue their ascent, enjoying further tailwinds from a fresh Fed easing cycle kicked off at the September FOMC meeting and the accompanying weaker US dollar? Or are we set for a retrenchment on a growth slowdown, as the tax-like first-round effects of tariffs accumulate and the high interest rates of the previous cycle accumulate and/or the AI capital expenditure frenzy slows?

US recession risks building further or just a tariff pig-in-a-python?
We continue to see US recession risks building, though if we fail to see the US dip into a recession in Q4, it could be down to a minor snapback in demand and activity as the trade policy uncertainty clears. Companies are also incentivised to invest by the “Big Beautiful Bill” and its 100% depreciation schedules for the year in which property and equipment are purchased. Some companies may move more determinedly now to diversify their supply chains. On the other hand, as we discuss below in the equities outlook, changes in AI-related investments could prove far larger than other capital expenditure shifts and have been a key driver of US growth this year. A couple of additional wildcards in the US: first, there is the risk of a government shutdown, where the picture is unclear as of this writing (we assume no shutdown, as it is probably impossible to gain political momentum by shutting down the government – ask DOGE).

Second and tough to measure in the medium term, especially due to very poor official data and the hazy grey-market labour data, is the impact of the Trump administration’s anti-immigration policy and degree to which this is disrupting the economy. We don’t consider the Fed’s easing policy in the growth outlook – that’s perhaps unfair, as the wealth effect is increasingly important in the US’s financialised economy. For the rest of the economy, though, Fed policy would operate on the economy with a considerable lag deep into next year.

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Source: Bloomberg

Chart: EURUSD versus US 10-year Treasury-German Bund yield spread. In recent history, the EURUSD exchange rate largely tracked the difference in the yields between the longer-term debt of the two blocs, as expressed in this chart in the spread between the yields on  a US 10-year Treasury note and the German 10-year bund. This year has seen a remarkable divergence – first when Germany announced a massive fiscal expansion that saw German and European yields spike higher relative to global peers. Fiscal expansion is usually currency positive. The subsequent surge in the Euro relative to the US dollar is less easy to attribute to anything going on in Europe and more likely to do with concerns that Trump trade barriers and US treasury policy will mean that capital recycled back into US markets will not be rewarded with strong returns.

Iran-Israel conflict: does this fade or escalate?
This outlook is being written amid renewed hostilities between Israel and Iran, as Israel seeks to block Iran’s nuclear ambitions. The impact on oil markets has been dramatic, raising fears of a new inflation wave. But impacts from geopolitical tensions are very difficult for market participants to anticipate or process. As for central banks that have their hands on the policy levers that can more directly move markets, they are likely to look through any energy-driven price spikes if sentiment and growth prospects deteriorate, maintaining a dovish stance despite an energy price-inspired inflation surge, if that’s what we get.

US recession risks
Recession risks are likely set to rise in the second half, partly due to a post-tariff slowdown after the pre-tariff rush in Q1 and early Q2, and as leading indicators point to incoming weakness. The Federal Reserve’s prolonged high policy rate, relative to inflation, adds to the pressure, with the housing market showing signs of severe deterioration. Our base case is for a mild recession in the second half, before inflationary growth picks up early next year ahead of the mid-term US elections.

Further downside this year in the growth outlook comes from tariffs, which act like a tax in terms of their first order effects. When you raise the price of something in the economy, there isn’t suddenly more money to buy it; rather, participants in the economy either buy less of that item or less of something else, resulting in a real growth decline. Trump’s anti-immigration policies may have a surprisingly large impact as well, as ICE raids and pressure tactics are scaring some workers without legal status underground and some may even be self-deporting. There’s little hard data on this thus far, only anecdotes, but at the margin there will be a consumption and labor supply impact for select industries that employ the most workers without legal status, including in agriculture, construction and hospitality industries.

A wildcard for the US and global economy is whether AI disruption could trigger the first true white-collar recession, as jobs requiring higher cognitive skills across industries are replaced by highly productive AI tools. Again, anecdotes abound, but perhaps in Q3 or soon thereafter we’ll get some real data on the impact of AI.

Anticipated market outcomes:

USD to remain weak. Precious metals to remain strong.
Trump 2.0 policy is anti-globalist, a policy that economist Russell Napier calls “national capitalism” and what others might dub a “reverse mercantilism” as the US tries to unwind the global order it built since WWII. That global order was great for building the world economy and ensuring cheap prices for American consumers. A strong dollar has been at the heart of the order as mercantilist powers suppressed their currencies to build export-driven economies, hollowing out US manufacturing and making the US unacceptably prone to supply chain disruptions, a matter of national defense. Despite Trump’s transactional style and erection of trade barriers, the US dollar will remain the most important currency, but it will be less important than before.

Other major economic players will recycle less of their capital into the US economy and US equities and US treasuries and have to rebalance their savings and consumption domestically. Europe is already showing strong signs of doing so, prompted by the suddenly shaky US commitment to the transatlantic alliance and Trump’s posturing on the terms of trade. Germany’s dramatic new fiscal expansion has already given the euro a strong boost, and EURUSD could be bound for 1.25 by year-end. Japan is proving slow to strike a deal with the Trump administration, as noted above possibly held up by the domestic political situation in Japan. But the very weak Japanese yen is a flashing red light for the US-Japan trade relationship that is likely set for course correction (a much stronger yen).

Precious metals power commodities sector to robust H1 performance, more gains ahead
This section written by Ole Hansen, Saxo Head of Commodities Strategy

The commodities sector is on track for a strong first half with the Bloomberg Commodities Index trading up around 9% at the time of writing, thereby comfortably outperforming other US dollar-denominated assets, including bonds and equities, with both the S&P 500 and Nasdaq lagging well behind. While commodities typically rally during periods of robust economic growth, the current upswing is largely driven by geopolitical risks and investment demand for tangible hard assets—particularly for precious metals.

Gold has led the charge for months, with silver and platinum recently joining the rally amid a potent mix of rising fiscal debt concerns, tariff-driven supply shocks, a softening labour market, and continued US dollar weakness—developments that may eventually prompt a dovish, and potentially stronger-than-expected, policy shift by the Federal Reserve. Adding to this is the risk of higher inflation and central banks extending their gold-buying spree into a fourth consecutive year; the groundwork for a push toward USD 4,000 within the next twelve months is, in our opinion, within reach.

Silver’s strong September rally lifted the semi-industrial metal to a 14-year high above USD 47. After a period of underperformance against gold—driven by accelerated central-bank demand for bullion—the recent surge has pulled the gold-silver ratio back to its 10-year average near 81. A push toward the 2011 record high at USD 50 will likely require support from gold, but with bullion potentially targeting USD 4,000, silver could find the momentum needed to reach that milestone in the coming months. 

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