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Episode 12 of 'Saxo Options Talk': Navigating risk: defined vs undefined strategies

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Koen Hoorelbeke

Options Strategist

Summary:  Episode 12 of 'Saxo Options Talk' brings to the forefront the pivotal concepts of defined and undefined risk strategies in options trading. Koen Hoorelbeke and Peter Siks dissect these crucial strategies, laying out their potential impacts on a trader’s portfolio.

Options are complex, high-risk products and require knowledge, investment experience and, in many applications, high risk acceptance. We recommend that before you invest in options, you inform yourself well about the operation and risks.

Introducing Episode 12 - Navigating Risk: Defined vs Undefined Strategies

In "Navigating Risk: Defined vs Undefined Strategies," Koen and Peter demystify the distinctions between defined and undefined risk strategies. This episode is a deep dive into understanding these fundamental options strategies and how they align with different trader profiles, particularly those new to the options market.

Understanding Risk Strategies

  • Risk Strategies Explained: Learn the difference between defined and undefined risk strategies with real examples, and explore which might be suitable for novice users.
  • Straddles and Strangles: Examine strategies like straddles, which can be both defined and undefined based on their long or short positions, and strangles, typically associated with undefined risk.

Transforming Risk

  • From Undefined to Defined: Delve into how an undefined risk strategy like a strangle can be converted into a defined one such as an iron condor.
  • Weighing the Odds: Consider the advantages and disadvantages of both approaches, including how market conditions like high VIX levels can influence the viability of undefined risk strategies.

The Art of Position Sizing

  • Size Matters: The hosts bring an interesting analogy with gaming to emphasize the importance of sizing in risk management, illustrating how this can be the difference between success and failure in trading strategies.

Preparing for the Next Step

  • Looking Ahead: Get a preview of the upcoming episode focusing on the short strangle, both uncovered and covered versions, providing listeners with a teaser of more advanced strategies to come.

Why Listen to Episode 12?

  • Whether you are testing the waters of options trading or looking to hone your risk management techniques, Episode 12 is an invaluable guide to mastering the balance between potential profits and risks.

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Episode 12 of 'Saxo Options Talk' is a crucial listen for traders seeking clarity on defined and undefined risk strategies. Koen and Peter’s expert insights offer a comprehensive understanding of how to navigate these strategies, making informed decisions to align with your trading objectives. Tune in to elevate your options trading knowledge and prepare for the evolving market conditions.

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