Saxo-Market-Call_Platform_1920x1280_Test 5

Is Nvidia dead to China?

Podcast 23 minutes to read
Saxo Logo
Saxo Market Call

Summary:  Today we focus on possible correction targets for this drawdown, should it continue, and welcome Saxo Equity Strategist Ruben Dalfovo to the pod, who leads us through his assessment of Nvidia going into next Wednesday's critical earnings call. The China angle for Nvidia is picking up interest of late - will China try to "go it alone" entirely on AI silicon and systems? Also on the pod, a reminder to keep an eye on the JGB market, which continues to pressurize, a look at the Jackson Hole speech incoming later, a preview of other earnings and the economic calendar and much more. Today's pod hosted by Saxo Global Head of Macro Strategy John J. Hardy.


Listen to the full episode now or follow the Saxo Market Call on your favorite podcast app.
Today's slide deck.

Today’s links

Our Jakob Falkencrone’s preview of Nvidia’s earnings call next week

The latest Felder report on neglected small caps as the market goes all in on the big market cap names, with one of the sub-links (paywall: FT) sharing my assessment that what is happening now rhymes a bit with the 2000 stock market, the final phase of the bubble of the time. Even in bubble markets, long term opportunities can lurk due to the neglect of the “boring” stuff that hasn’t been performing.

Telegraph op-ed (paywall unless you’re clever…shhh) shreds UK Energy Secretary Ed Milliband for possibly being set for “failing heroically on every front at once” if he continue to stick to the self-destructive Net Zero hobby horse. So fascinating that UK government is out of synch with the themes and the trends (populism) - how long can this government last?

A Fortune piece following up on the MIT study showing that 95% of AI projects have failed - first pointing out that the very nervousness of the market to a story like this suggests a bubble-like response function (as we noted on the SMC podcast), but also noting that it is how AI is being employed, not the tech itself, that is the problem.

A must read (I still haven’t yet, but the author and title make me 100% sure this one is worth reading several times this weekend and considering the consequences), Izabella Kaminska on Redollarization and Digital Statecraft: How Stablecoins are Rewiring Global Power. This as China is apparently considering launching its own yuan stablecoin.

Clear that Ether is as important to track these days as Bitcoin as none other than Peter Thiel is piling into Ether as “proponents see Ethereum becoming the platform of choice for the financial world” (WSJ paywall, or becomes a Saxo client and read all WSJ stuff for free on platform.)

Ruben’s podcast picks include the Invest Like the Best, as well as Business Breakdowns and We Study Billionaires, his favorite among the Investor Podcast Network’s podcasts.

Another Fortune piece on the release of a new Chinese DeepSeek model, one that is both open source and optimized for Chinse silicon, but also priced to undercut OpenAI.

Chart of the Day - Snowflake (SNOW)

Snowflake reports next Wednesday after the close while most of the focus will be on Nvidia reporting the same day. The company timed its IPO to perfection during the pandemic, when the company’s market cap reached above USD 120 billion in late 2021 or about 100 times sales - Palantir-esque valuation territory, though without the profits at the time. Since then, revenue is up many multiples as growth has decelerated, if still impressive at a 25% clip last quarter . Next week, the company is expected to report its first quarter with positive earnings, though it has been free cash flow positive since 2021. We discuss Snowflake’s valuation on the podcast.

22_08_2025_SNOW
Source: Saxo

Questions and comments, please!

We invite you to send any questions and comments you might have for the podcast team. Whether feedback on the show's content, questions about specific topics, or requests for more focus on a given market area in an upcoming podcast, please get in touch at marketcall@saxobank.com.

This content is marketing material and should not be considered investment advice. Trading financial instruments carries risks and historic performance is not a guarantee for future performance.

The instrument(s) mentioned in this content may be issued by a partner, from which Saxo receives promotion, payment or retrocessions. While Saxo receives compensation from these partnerships, all content is conducted with the intention of providing clients with valuable options and information.

Quarterly Outlook

01 /

  • Q3 Investor Outlook: Beyond American shores – why diversification is your strongest ally

    Quarterly Outlook

    Q3 Investor Outlook: Beyond American shores – why diversification is your strongest ally

    Jacob Falkencrone

    Global Head of Investment Strategy

  • Q3 Macro Outlook: Less chaos, and hopefully a bit more clarity

    Quarterly Outlook

    Q3 Macro Outlook: Less chaos, and hopefully a bit more clarity

    John J. Hardy

    Global Head of Macro Strategy

    After the chaos of Q2, the quarter ahead should get a bit more clarity on how Trump 2.0 is impacting...
  • Upending the global order at blinding speed

    Quarterly Outlook

    Upending the global order at blinding speed

    John J. Hardy

    Global Head of Macro Strategy

    We are witnessing a once-in-a-lifetime shredding of the global order. As the new order takes shape, ...
  • Equity outlook: The high cost of global fragmentation for US portfolios

    Quarterly Outlook

    Equity outlook: The high cost of global fragmentation for US portfolios

    Charu Chanana

    Chief Investment Strategist

  • Asset allocation outlook: From Magnificent 7 to Magnificent 2,645—diversification matters, now more than ever

    Quarterly Outlook

    Asset allocation outlook: From Magnificent 7 to Magnificent 2,645—diversification matters, now more than ever

    Jacob Falkencrone

    Global Head of Investment Strategy

  • Commodity Outlook: Commodities rally despite global uncertainty

    Quarterly Outlook

    Commodity Outlook: Commodities rally despite global uncertainty

    Ole Hansen

    Head of Commodity Strategy

  • Macro outlook: Trump 2.0: Can the US have its cake and eat it, too?

    Quarterly Outlook

    Macro outlook: Trump 2.0: Can the US have its cake and eat it, too?

    John J. Hardy

    Global Head of Macro Strategy

  • Equity Outlook: The ride just got rougher

    Quarterly Outlook

    Equity Outlook: The ride just got rougher

    Charu Chanana

    Chief Investment Strategist

  • China Outlook: The choice between retaliation or de-escalation

    Quarterly Outlook

    China Outlook: The choice between retaliation or de-escalation

    Charu Chanana

    Chief Investment Strategist

  • Commodity Outlook: A bumpy road ahead calls for diversification

    Quarterly Outlook

    Commodity Outlook: A bumpy road ahead calls for diversification

    Ole Hansen

    Head of Commodity Strategy

The information on or via the website is provided to you by Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. (“Saxo Bank”) for educational and information purposes only. The information should not be construed as an offer or recommendation to enter into any transaction or any particular service, nor should the contents be construed as advice of any other kind, for example of a tax or legal nature.

All trading carries risk. Loses can exceed deposits on margin products. You should consider whether you understand how our products work and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing your money.

Saxo Bank does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information provided and shall not be responsible for any errors or omissions or for any losses or damages resulting from the use of such information.

The content of this website represents marketing material and is not the result of financial analysis or research. It has therefore not been prepared in accordance with directives designed to promote the independence of financial/investment research and is not subject to any prohibition on dealing ahead of the dissemination of financial/investment research.

Saxo Bank (Schweiz) AG
The Circle 38
CH-8058
Zürich-Flughafen
Switzerland

Contact Saxo

Select region

Switzerland
Switzerland

All trading carries risk. Losses can exceed deposits on margin products. You should consider whether you understand how our products work and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing your money. To help you understand the risks involved we have put together a general Risk Warning series of Key Information Documents (KIDs) highlighting the risks and rewards related to each product. The KIDs can be accessed within the trading platform. Please note that the full prospectus can be obtained free of charge from Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. or the issuer.

This website can be accessed worldwide however the information on the website is related to Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. All clients will directly engage with Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. and all client agreements will be entered into with Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. and thus governed by Swiss Law. 

The content of this website represents marketing material and has not been notified or submitted to any supervisory authority.

If you contact Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. or visit this website, you acknowledge and agree that any data that you transmit to Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd., either through this website, by telephone or by any other means of communication (e.g. e-mail), may be collected or recorded and transferred to other Saxo Bank Group companies or third parties in Switzerland or abroad and may be stored or otherwise processed by them or Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. You release Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. from its obligations under Swiss banking and securities dealer secrecies and, to the extent permitted by law, data protection laws as well as other laws and obligations to protect privacy. Saxo Bank (Switzerland) Ltd. has implemented appropriate technical and organizational measures to protect data from unauthorized processing and disclosure and applies appropriate safeguards to guarantee adequate protection of such data.

Apple, iPad and iPhone are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries. App Store is a service mark of Apple Inc.